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In the “Hospital” we met a
"Dr. Dong" who's supposedly from Tibet and is the 4th Generation
doctor from their family. (Not sure if that’s her real name??) She asked
us to open our mind to natural medicine and not just modern medicine because the latter uses chemicals to cure only the symptoms - side effects will still be present, while the former is used to cure the root cause of symptoms. To add credibility, she mentioned that the late president Marcos went to their hospital for his Lupus and that other prominent people visited them to be cured. In fact, the very first president of their institution is already 107 years old because he uses Chinese Natural Medicine for long life. After convincing our group, Dr. Dong said that Chinese Natural Medicine "doctors" and their English interpreters will enter the room to diagnose us of any illness by looking at the palm of our hands. My husband went first and the doctor said he has problems with his liver. Then the doctor looked at my palms, he said I had hormonal imbalance causing irregularity in my menstruation cycle. When they saw that I was interested to know more (who wouldn’t be concerned with
their health??), they accompanied us from the foot massage room to the
“doctor’s office” to discuss more on how to cure the said “illnesses”. They
offered us Chinese medicines that can only be found in Tibet (according to
them) and the prices are fixed because they’re very rare. They offered us a
treatment package for my husband worth CNY 2,700 per month and that he should
take it for 3 months amounting to a whopping total of CNY 8,100. I declined
because I didn’t have that much budget but the interpreter said the doctor will
perform “Chi-gong” (transfer of energy) on my husband to make the medicine more
effective so he can just avail of 1 month treatment instead of 3 months.
Unsuspecting, I subscribed to the idea and handed them my credit card to charge
CNY 2,700 for the medicine. After that the doctor prescribed some Chinese
medicine for my hormonal imbalance amounting to CNY 3,400 for a month’s worth
of medicines. The interpreter said I had to buy 3 months’ worth of medicines so
I can get rid of my hormonal imbalance forever. Thank God I’ve set a budget for
this trip rendering me to decline, (otherwise I ended up buying some medicine
for myself..) To cut the Chinese Medicine Scam Story short, I was charged
using my Visa Credit Card CNY 2,700 for this trip. I even paid CNY 500
in cash for some foot soak and topical oil for detoxification, arthritis and
high blood… but I already paid for that in cash. I’m just after the credit card
charge reversal. See this site for more info on this scam:
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My husband and I went to Beijing for a tour on May 7-11, 2013. We
booked our trip through a licensed tour operator in the Philippines, Aboex
Travel & Tours. It was stated
in our travel voucher that we need to follow the whole scheduled itinerary and
should we decide not to follow, all hotel rooms, tours and meals will
automatically be forfeited, so we adhered.
On May 9, 2013 our tour guide,
“Aimee” from Century Holiday (tour operator in China that partnered with Aboex)
brought us to a Chinese Medicine Shop for a “foot massage” after our Jade Shop,
Juyongguan Pass (Great Wall) & Lunch stops.
"Dr. Dong" |
After the Chinese Medicine trip, we
went to the Olympic Stadium and Water Cube then went to a pearl shop (in the
basement of the old Olympic stadium). This is where scam #2 happened. A Chinese
lady discussed how they grew cultured fresh water pearls.
She said that the most expensive
type of pearl was the golden pearl and that in China, ladies ask for a golden
pearl ring instead of diamond ring for an engagement ring because golden
pearls are that valuable and rare. She even declared that an expert will
shortly follow and discuss more about pearls after her presentation but due to
a very busy day with the experts tending to other tourists, their boss will
entertain us instead. The “boss” introduced himself to us as Yan Tao. He said
that his parents asked him to manage their pearl shop business instead of
playing around. He even apologized for appearing nervous because it was
his first time to present to a group of tourists. Since it was his
first time to present, he said that we will be very memorable to him. I asked
to take a picture with him, he was weary at first but he allowed us to take one
on the latter part. He said didn’t know much about pearls but he did know a lot
about Jade so he will discuss Jade instead. After teaching us how to detect a
fake from a genuine jade, he offered to show some of their golden pearl
collections. He said he will just show these collections because we are his
friends.
The Con Artist, "Yan Tao" |
Then we bumped in to some sales
ladies inside their VIP rooms when finally he made an irresistible offer. We
stopped by a glass case full of various pearl necklaces and we saw they were
labelled CNY 400 each, but since we are his “friends” he will just charge CNY
100 per necklace so we can buy souvenirs for our friends and family. His
salesladies looked surprised when he announced the crazy sale and in chorus
with matching jaw drop they said, “100 yuan??!?!?@#”
While we were busy choosing for our
moms, he disappeared for a moment and came back with an even more irresistible
offer.. He showed us a golden pearl set and said that market price was at CNY
12,800. Since he is the son of the owner and since we are his friends, he will
sell it for just CNY 3,000 (and I can return it to him should we find a
cheaper offer – now that is a statement useful for our side because I want to
return the item). Who won’t be tempted by such offer?? They even had a
saying “One life, one set” encouraging us to invest and treat the set as a
family heirloom to be passed on from generation to generation.
I have a daughter and such thought
made me decide to buy the set. Even my husband pushed me to buy it because it
was a good investment. We are not experts on pearls and as gullible as it may
seem, we took the offer. They hurriedly accompanied us to the cashier to
swipe my card for a total of CNY 3,000. After that, Yan Tao asked if we
are interested in Jade. I said no but they insisted to show us some bangles worth
CNY 4,800 and if we will buy on that day, he will charge us CNY 800 instead. He
also presented a CNY 65000 worth of pearl necklace and that he will just charge
CNY 10,000 for me because I am his friend. I declined but he insisted on
another pearl set of earrings, necklace and ring. The market price of the 2nd bigger set of golden pearls was
CNY 85,000 but he will just charge us CNY 5,000 more if we will buy it and
throw the already purchased CNY 3000 set for free (for a total of CNY 8,000)!
Luckily, I didn’t buy more. Just the CNY 3,000 set.
My husband and I were thrilled to
find such bargains in Beijing. I was even excited to give my friend who will
travel to Beijing on December Yan Tao’s card so she can avail of the same
discounts as we did. Only this morning (May 14, 2013) did I get the chance to
“Google” the pearl shop in the old Olympic stadium and the Chinese Medicine
Shop. My knees trembled when I learned about the scams – that the diagnoses on
other couples in the Chinese Medicine Shop were just the same as ours (liver
for guys and hormonal imbalance for girls) and that our good friend, Yan Tao,
did not give us his real name (Mike for others, etc), it was not his first time
to present when he attended to us, and that he is a very effective con artist
making us buy cheap pearls and Jade for outrageous prices than their real value
believing he was the owner’s son, being a friend to us. See these threads on
how inconsistent their tactics are:
I wrote this story hoping some kind
soul will help us get back what we lost. I am filing a formal complaint in
behalf of the former travelers who’ve been scammed just like us, and for those
who will be going in the future. I hope that in my own little way of blogging,
I'll be able to warn others about these scams to avoid becoming victims to
these tourist traps. I also hope that these scammers be investigated and be
required in the future to present themselves using their real identities.
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Comments from the previous post:
Anonymous said...
We just came back from Beijing
yesterday and got scammed at Derun Jewelry too. We should have done our
research first!
Anyway, did you manage to get your money back and return the
golden pearl set?
We are making a formal complaint and have requested our
tour agent in Beijing to assist us to cancel the credit card payment and refund
the money. Am now waiting for the outcome.
May 30, 2013 at 1:13 AM
wanderingiska said...
Hi, sorry for the late reply. It
was a long, arduous claim but all worth it. I got everything back :) How about
you?
August 23, 2013 at 5:52 AM
Anonymous said...
i'm just fall to the trap as
well... may i know how u get back ur money? u post the thing back to them? u
from which country?
September 18, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Anonymous said...
I also fell into the trap. When I
got back to the hotel and read the scam, I contacted the tour company and guide
to take us back to the shop. We returned the jade, saying that we regretted
buying it and not to our taste, and got a full refund in cash.
September 26, 2013 at 3:19 AM
Anonymous said...
Please tell me how you go through
the process of getting back the money?
November 26, 2013 at 7:04 AM
wanderingiska said...
I contacted the agency that brought
us to the shop, sent them this article and asked them to help me return the
item and get a full refund.
I also contacted my credit card company. Sent them
a dispute and ticked the "cancelled transaction" option. I had to
send the card company proof of return and acknowledgment of merchant to cancel
the transaction.
Once done, everything just fell into place. I had so much
difficulty in shipping out the pearls but I was able to get past the
problem.
Goodluck to everyone wishing for a refund.. I hope you get yours
too..
January 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM
Anonymous said...
Hi,
the similar thing happened to
us in our recent trip in the shop (just this January 25, 2014). one lady
introduced herself as Rose, claiming that she is the youngest daughter of the
owner. She said she is the one going to give the talk as the
"teacher" was not around. She shared to us her story of how she
resent her dad and does not want to pursue business but instead want to pursue
tourism. She gained our trust. She showed us what she claimed as her father's
collection then brought us to the VIP room. She said to never mind the price
and she'll give us a good price. We got jewellry for a total of CNY 10,113. At
first we were reluctant to bite the offer thinking we might be taking advantage
of her generosity and it might cause huge loss in their business. Imagine a set
for CNY 68,000 sold to us for just CNY 2,500. It was a very attractive offer so
we accepted the discounted price.
Could you help us in getting the refund? We
really don't know who to turn to. We don't know if we should complain our local
Philippine travel agent, Aerial Travel and Tours, or the Beijing agency,
Century Holiday Internation Travel Services. Or should we file a complain in
the Chinese Embassy based in Manila.
January 27, 2014 at 6:43 AM
Azar said...
^ Hi, I already communicated with
both travel agencies, Aerial Travel and Tours,and Century Holiday International
Travel Services. I apologize should any organization's name had been dragged in
a bad light. Fortunately, Aerial Travel and Tours owner, Rowena Maglinao, was
kind enough to assist us in getting a refund.
January 29, 2014 at 6:36 AM
wanderingiska said...
i'm glad you found a way to get
back your money. to everyone serious enough to get a refund, just contact your
local travel agency and i believe they will surely help. for those planning to
visit, PLEASE.... think about buying anything you're not sure about ü
February 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM
Royce said...
Good evening , I'd like to ask po
what address you used to send back the 'medicines' you bought as the same exact
thing happened to us! I saw the pic of the foot massage people and exactly the
same color towel and same track suits wet worn by the people massaging us! We
cut our trip short as we got very disgusted and unsafe in that country. How did
you send back the medicines?
March 11, 2014 at 6:46 AM
Vince said...
Hi,
I just got back from this
shop from Beijing too. Seems like we're on the same boat. Is there anyone who
got their refund back yet? I just visited there last week. How to get proof of
refund? please get back to me soon. Thanks.
April 19, 2014 at 2:57 AM
Anonymous said...
We asked the local travel agent's
assistance in sending the jewelries. But sadly, shipping companies such as DHL
and FedEx would not accept fake jewelries. So no, we were not able to get our
refund. For some reason, China is allowing these kinds of activities under
their nose. Where did you get your tour package? I guess this is the price we
pay for getting cheap tour packages because decent ones don't go cheap
nowadays.
April 19, 2014 at 6:31 AM
Anonymous said...
Same problem here. It is not easy
to ship them back.
May 6, 2014 at 11:34 PM
to everyone inquiring on how I got our refund, here's my advice:
ReplyDelete1. get in touch with your local tour agency first. tell them about your story.
2. let the local tour agency contact their counterpart in China
3. get the Chinese tour agency contact details and coordinate with them directly
4. ship your goods as "accessories" because they're not of value (if there is any value, it's minimal)
5. ship your medicines as "medicine" and be open for inspection
6. be sure to track your package
7. if you're having a hard time looking for a shipping company that will accept your items, try harder. i did, and i was able to find some.
i wrote all the parties concerned, even government agencies just so I can warn others about this scam. i even wrote the president LOL (by the way I did get a response! i was referred to another government agency) remember, IF THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY!! :)
Ano pong shipping company? Pls help po
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Hi! We just came back from Beijing tour w/ aboex too. we had the same itinerary as yours, went for a foot massage after great wall. But, we instead went to a different jade shop the following day. It was the one from the first floor of the building where the foot massage at 2nd floor was. A guy popped out in our VIP room and introduced himself as son of Tony Tan (Jollibee CEO). Can anyone comment having this similar story? Thankfully I didn't buy anything there because i was already aware of such scams but a lot from our bus tour bought!
ReplyDeleteWe met "Tony Tan" too. The original post was for a trip in 2013, ours was on April 2017 and they're still doing it. Jesus.
DeleteI was recently scammed too. Is it also the fault of the local travel agency to partner with an unscrupulous China travel agency (Century Holiday--- been reading blogs and forums, this china travel agency seems to be an accomplice of this scam). Should my Philippine travel agency be liable in sending the jades and medicines back to beijing and get the refund? I used my credit card.
ReplyDeleteHi, we just came back from beijing, and we were also hit by these scams. How did you get the refund? All stories are the same. Just different names. Please help. TIA
ReplyDeleteHi, we also experience these., we have our travel last Dec 26, 2017 to Jan 4. 2018 How did you process the refund and we are already taking the medicine., Oh my God. Is there any possibility that we can refund or get back our money since I had already my billing.
ReplyDeletepucha...kung nag research muna kami di sana kami ma scam...same stories...traveled april 19-23 2018 luhaan...hahaha
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